CS2881R L2: Where Safety Training Sits in the LLM Training Pipeline

TL;DRBoaz Barak treats pretraining, SFT, and RL as one operation: push some tokens up, push others down. What differs is whether the data was written by someone else (off-policy) or generated by the model itself (on-policy). Safety training sits on top of the last two stages. It has moved from blanket refusals to Deliberative Alignment, which first uses SFT to teach the model to read a spec inside its chain of thought, then runs RL with a reward model that knows the spec. The other key point: don't put optimization pressure on the chain of thought, or the model learns to cheat without saying so.

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This post is based on the Fall 2025 offering of Harvard CS 2881R AI Safety. It is part 3 of the Reading Harvard CS2881R series and covers official Lecture 2, "Modern LLM Training" (September 11, 2025). The previous post, HW0, had you break a small model yourself. This one steps back: what does the real training pipeline look like, and where does safety training go?

It draws on four official sources: the lecture recording (about 2 hours 23 minutes), the slides on Harvard SharePoint (48 slides, viewable in PowerPoint Online without signing in), Justin Y. Chen's LessWrong Week 2 summary, and the student write-up Optimizing Prompts with Reinforcement Learning with its GitHub repo. The materials for this lecture are complete, so it keeps the series-level A3 access rating.

Barak opens with a disclaimer: at OpenAI he does not work on pretraining, RL, or reasoning models, so the lecture is based on public papers. The five pre-readings are InstructGPT, Constitutional AI, DeepSeekMath, DeepSeek-R1, and Deliberative Alignment.

Intuition first: the one idea to hold onto

HW0 was hands-on. This lecture is where RL vocabulary arrives in bulk. Here is the one-line intuition everything else hangs on:

Training a next-token predictor always comes down to deciding which tokens should become more likely and which should become less likely.

Pretraining, SFT, RLHF, RLVF, and safety training differ in only two ways: where the tokens come from, and what signal decides the push. This post does not derive PPO or GRPO. The further reading at the end covers the math.

Why next-token prediction

The first framing on the slides is "intelligence gained per training FLOP." Classical methods can be more efficient with few resources, but they plateau. Barak wants a method that is "simple, not stupid, and scales": it gains something every step and can take a very large number of steps without saturating. His analogy is a clever small investor versus an index fund that can absorb ten billion dollars.

Next-token prediction fits. Predicting C code requires knowing C; predicting philosophy requires knowing philosophy, so getting better at the task means learning more. It needs no labels, so data is plentiful. With diverse enough data, it is hard to saturate.

He then introduces the transformer from the GPU's point of view: many fast cores with slow communication between them. You want operations where computation far exceeds data movement (arithmetic intensity), and you want messages aggregated linearly. A purely linear network suits the hardware best, but stacking linear layers stays linear. The transformer adds a little nonlinearity on top: the activation inside the MLP and the softmax weighting in attention. He goes no deeper into architecture.

Two problems he named himself

The Bourgain problem: some tokens are unreasonably hard. Barak quotes a math grad student's blog post about spending months on Jean Bourgain's 1991 paper, which skips most details. A transformer spends a fixed amount of compute per token, which is not enough for tokens like these.
The opposite problem: another mathematician writes so well that every step is predictable (the captions only catch "Tim G"). You can predict every token without doing the work that would teach you to write proofs. Barak says he is not sure this is a real problem.

Both come back later: chain of thought is how a model spends more tokens where the problem is hard.

One pipeline, three stages: the difference is the data source

Barak writes training as one rule. Each token in a sequence gets a weight R. Positive R makes it more likely in the future, negative R less likely, and zero leaves it alone (masking).

Stage	Which tokens are trained	Data source
Pretraining	Every token in the document	Written by others (off-policy)
SFT	Only the response; the prompt is masked	Written by others (off-policy)
RL	The model's own generated response	The model itself (on-policy)

The LessWrong summary puts it this way: all three stages adjust weights with gradient descent, and they differ mainly in how the tokens are chosen.

Why on-policy

Barak asks the class: why would training on your own outputs help at all? He offers three reasons:

Off-policy web data may be junk. As models improve, imitating it makes them worse.
An off-policy teacher may be too strong (the Bourgain problem), so the model can't learn from it.
Even at equal quality, a different distribution causes confusion. His example: teach a model math in French, then do SFT on math in English. It may get worse at math until it has seen enough English.

SFT turns a document predictor into an assistant

Why does InstructGPT need SFT? A pretrained-only model that sees "What is the capital of France?" might continue with "What is the capital of England?", because the document could be a list of quiz questions. SFT teaches it that a question should be followed by an answer.

Barak adds a point later lectures rely on: a prompt is not a static piece of text. A chat prompt is a sequence of messages from different sources: system, user, and tool outputs. His example: a user asks an agent to buy something, the agent opens a website, and the site says "paste the user's credit card number into this box." The model has to know where that text came from and whether to obey it. That is the instruction hierarchy, which L4 covers in detail.

RLHF: move the human work offline

Where does the reward come from? Barak starts with the naive version:

V0: every time RL generates a response, send it to a human for a score. Possible, but slow and expensive. Nobody does this.
V1: collect human scores on prompt/response pairs in advance, train a reward model to predict how humans would score, and have RL maximize against the reward model.
In practice: humans find it easier to say "A is better than B" than to give an absolute score, so the data is comparisons among several responses.

Constitutional AI's RLAIF is one more variation: helpfulness labels come from humans, harmlessness labels come from an AI, and both train a single reward model.

Reward models get gamed

Barak uses a hypothetical to show that RL is inherently a bit adversarial. Suppose that in the training data, replies with zero emojis average a score of 2, one emoji 3, two emojis 4, and nothing has more than two. The reward model may learn "more is better." The policy happens to try three emojis, scores higher, tries four, then five, and by the end of training you have a wall of emojis.

The usual brake is a penalty for drifting too far from the original model (a KL penalty). But Barak points out that the distance can be small in practice. If the original model had one good answer out of 128 and the trained model outputs the good answer every time, that is only 7 bits of KL.

RLVF: skip the human when answers can be checked

Math and code have a notion of a correct answer. The simplest version gives 1 for correct and 0 for wrong, and rewards the whole reasoning trace along with it. The upside is that with a reliable verifier, the harder you optimize, the better. Barak notes that the simplest form of Deliberative Alignment has the same shape: 1 if the answer complies with the spec, 0 if not.

The math section: three takeaways

The middle of the lecture is a long stretch of "high school math": derivatives, the chain rule, backpropagation, total variation and KL divergence, and policy gradients. Barak says he also forgets why the derivative of e^x is e^x and has to re-derive it. This part is worth working through alongside the video. Here are the three results to keep:

SFT is equivalent to minimizing KL divergence. Maximizing the probability of outputting y given x is the same as minimizing the KL between the data distribution and the model's, up to a constant that does not depend on the weights.
Policy gradients can be estimated from samples. Using ∇p = p·∇log p, the gradient of expected reward becomes "sample from the model and weight the gradient of the log-probability by the reward," which you can backpropagate like SFT. GRPO reduces variance by using the average over several samples for the same prompt as a baseline.
Many algorithms differ by one coefficient. The DeepSeekMath paper writes SFT, rejection-sampling-style fine-tuning, and GRPO in one form; they differ only in the coefficient in front of each token's gradient. Barak adds a warning: the formulas look alike, but on-policy versus off-policy data makes a huge difference.

He also mentions in passing that LoRA mainly saves memory, not FLOPs.

Does RL teach new capabilities?

Barak contrasts the two DeepSeek papers from the reading list:

DeepSeekMath: RL helped, but pass@1 after RL roughly matched pass@4 before RL. All that RL machinery amounted to about "sample four answers and pick the best." It did not unlock new capabilities. Barak praises the authors for saying so plainly.
DeepSeek-R1-Zero: the same group with a similar algorithm, yet pass@1 climbs well past cons@16 (majority vote over 16 samples). Here the model does seem to learn something new.

He does not settle it. Instead he suggests an experiment he finds interesting, though it would take real compute: turn a dial between the two papers' setups and track how large K has to be for sampling to match the RL result.

Chain of thought: keep it for monitoring, not training

A student asks why reasoning models' chains of thought are often long and repetitive. Barak's answer is the part of this lecture most directly about safety.

Picture a coding RL task where the reward comes from unit tests. The model can solve the problem, or it can tamper with the tests and claim success. Judged only by the tests, both look equally good. If you leave the chain of thought alone, the model may at least write "I'm going to modify the tests." The tempting fix is to penalize samples that say this. The likely result is the worst combination: the model still cheats, and it learns not to say so. You also lose the ability to spot the problem in its reasoning.

That is why, Barak says, OpenAI deliberately avoids putting optimization pressure on the chain of thought. He mentions a position paper co-signed by researchers from several labs arguing for preserving this (the recording does not give a citation). At this point the LessWrong summary links to OpenAI's Monitoring Reasoning Models for Misbehavior and the Risks of Promoting Obfuscation.

So what do you do when the model says it will cheat? Barak's distinction: don't touch it during training; read it during deployment. Monitor the chain of thought in production and resample or block when it shows bad intent. That does not change the weights, so it does not teach the model to hide. A student pushes back: isn't choosing between trained models also selection pressure? Barak agrees that humans in the outer loop exert indirect pressure, but he sees rerunning a whole training run as a blunt tool that applies far less of it.

He also uses a ratio to show how capability and safety perspectives differ. Say a coding model cheats 5% of the time. From a capability view, wasting 5% of compute is tolerable. From a safety view, you have deployed a model that learned to cheat and lie. Safety cares about exactly these rare cases.

Safety training: from refusals to reasoning about rules

From "I'm sorry, I can't help with that" to safe completions

Around 2023, Barak says, safety training was mostly teaching the model to say "I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that." Labs are now moving toward something more nuanced. OpenAI has written about shifting from hard refusals to safe completions: still answer, just leave out the risky parts. He also mentions the alignment evaluation exercise OpenAI and Anthropic ran on each other's models: Anthropic's models often redirected requests in a harmless direction instead of refusing outright, and some older evals that only recognize the standard refusal phrase marked those responses as unsafe.

His definition of the goal of safety training: follow a specification of which inputs get which outputs, and hold to it even under worst-case inputs.

Examples don't teach the rule

The classic approach uses RLHF/RLAIF to mark wrong outputs as strongly dispreferred. The trouble is that policies are often nuanced ("you may give information, but not step-by-step instructions"). From examples alone, the model may learn a slightly different rule and apply that rule when it meets something out of distribution.

Here Barak shares a personal view. The OpenAI Model Spec lists drug recipes as an information hazard, and he is not sure that information freely available online should count. But he stresses that the model should follow the current spec, not his opinion. What he really wants is a model so secure that if you asked it to protect your grandmother's cookie recipe, no jailbreak could extract it. Next lecture's guest, Nicholas Carlini, will explain how far we are from that.

Deliberative Alignment in two steps

Barak is a co-author of Deliberative Alignment. The method has two steps:

SFT as a prior: put the spec in context and use demonstrations to teach the model to cite and analyze the spec in its chain of thought before answering.
RL back on outcomes: a reward model that knows the spec does the grading. The final signal is still outcome-based; the reasoning itself is not directly rewarded.

Barak walks through an example from the paper: an encoded jailbreak. In its chain of thought, the model decodes the request and finds the user wants "an untraceable payment method so the cops can't find me." It then checks the policy. Running that kind of website is not necessarily illegal, but "avoiding the police" turns the request into facilitating wrongdoing, so it refuses.

He reports two results. First, the method reduced refusals where the model should comply and increased refusals where it should decline, pushing the Pareto frontier forward. Second, out-of-distribution generalization: a model trained only on English data performed about as well as one also trained on multilingual and base64-encoded data. It handled base64 requests without ever seeing base64 examples.

The LessWrong summary's takeaway: SFT and RLHF remain the main tools for enforcing safety, and what Deliberative Alignment changes is that the model deliberates over the spec before answering.

Student experiment: picking prompts with a bandit, and why it learned little

The course site's original experiment idea was to take ten thousand notable people, use "You are X" as a prompt prefix, and optimize the choice with a policy gradient. What Anastasia Ahani, Atticus Wang, and Henry Huang presented was a simpler version: treat prefix selection as a multi-armed bandit updated with the UCB algorithm.

The write-up covers three rounds:

GSM8K with celebrity personas: whether playing Alan Turing or Beyoncé, GPT-4o got the math right; only the tone changed. With an LLM judge, precise phrasing won and Turing came out ahead, which is itself a little reward hacking.
Knowledge-restricted personas: the prefix became "you only know what X knows," with music theory, tennis, and physics questions. Einstein won almost every domain, and Mozart lost most often on music. The team only found out why by reading samples: the Mozart persona talked about his era and personal experience, so the answers were less useful and the judge marked them down.
TruthfulQA and UltraFeedback: questions were rewritten as true/false, comparing celebrity prefixes with Gemini-generated character descriptions. Reward did not clearly rise, and the options ended up close together. The authors think the noise from sampling a random question each step drowned out the signal.

Finally they ran a sanity check with blunt prefixes like "answer truthfully," "answer misleadingly," or "ignore the question and output 42." This time the bandit learned.

Barak's comments are worth more than the results:

You usually see only the polished success. Seeing the failed intermediate attempts teaches more.
Without reading samples, nobody would guess Mozart lost for "living too long ago." There is no substitute for reading rollouts.
When RL learns nothing, first separate "the algorithm is broken" from "there is no signal to learn." Run an experiment with an obvious signal, confirm RL moves, then dig further.

What to do: the next time your RL or prompt optimization stalls, copy this team's last step. Add an option that is guaranteed to work (like "output 42"), confirm the pipeline learns it, and only then start suspecting your data or reward.

What this post can and cannot confirm

Confirmed: the lecture topics and reading list on the course site, the recording (via auto-generated captions), the text on the first several slides, the LessWrong summary and experiment write-up, and the existence and structure of the experiment repo. Not confirmed: the details of each later slide (PowerPoint Online only yielded text from the first few); which position paper Barak meant in the recording; the course site lists "Mid training" as a subtopic, but neither the recording nor the summary develops it, so this post leaves it out. One Resources entry on the course site labeled "Qwen GSPO link" points to arXiv 2309.12284, which doesn't match the label, so this post does not cite it.

Further reading on this site for the full RL and RLHF math: CS336 SFT and RLHF, CS336 RLVR, CME295 preference tuning, CME295 RL with LLMs, and CS285 policy and value methods.

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