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The ten sentences in my previous work English post started from the Chinese, and I then checked a dictionary for the pattern. The topic was reporting progress in a stand-up. This time I changed the method: I read workplace English teaching materials first to see what they teach, then compared.
The result surprised me a little. The materials teach almost none of what I had been practicing.
What I was trying to say
The sources I read this time:
- BBC Office English: the full transcripts of twenty-one of the series' thirty-seven episodes
- Four speaking lessons from British Council LearnEnglish: asking a favour, agreeing and disagreeing, challenging someone's ideas, and dealing with a problem
- PagerDuty's public incident response documentation, six pages
Here are the functions the materials teach, next to my original twelve work cards:
| Function | Do the materials teach it? | Did I have it? |
|---|---|---|
| Asking for help, offering help, saying no | Yes, both speaking sources | One card |
| Checking understanding, asking someone to repeat | Yes | One card |
| Making suggestions, disagreeing politely | Yes, both speaking sources | Two cards |
| Admitting mistakes, warning about bad news | Yes | None |
| Chasing progress, talking about deadlines | Yes | Three cards, different patterns |
| Reporting progress in a stand-up | None of the sources I read | Five cards |
The five stand-up sentences (looking into an issue, fixed it yesterday, still waiting, blocked, can't reproduce it) are not wrong. The materials I read this time just don't back them up, and their support is still dictionaries and technical documentation. The materials spend their time on something else: the things that are hard to say to another person.
What you can say in this situation
Each sentence is marked as quoted from a source or as a source sentence with the content swapped. Both speaking sources are British institutions. The BBC hosts say several times that this kind of indirect phrasing is a British workplace habit, and that when you are making a decision or handing out work, being more direct is clearer.
1. Asking for help and saying no
| What I want to say | What works in this situation | Relation to the source |
|---|---|---|
| 你有空幫我一下嗎?我這邊遇到一點問題。 | Have you got a second to help me out? I'm having some trouble with this. | Quoted |
| 我想這個需要另一個人幫我看一下。 | I think I need another pair of eyes on this. | Quoted |
| 不好意思打擾你,可以請你幫我一下嗎? | Sorry to bother you, but would you mind helping me for a moment? | Quoted |
| 可以晚點嗎?我很想幫忙,但我手上還有幾件事要處理。 | Can it wait until later? I'd love to help, but I have a few other things I need to sort out. | Quoted |
| 我現在真的忙不過來,有沒有其他人可以幫忙? | I'm snowed under at the moment. Is there anyone else that can help? | Quoted |
| 這個我可以做,不過另一個期限可能要往後延。 | I can get that done for you. It might mean that we have to push back another deadline though. | Quoted |
The first four come from the BBC episode Help. The host calls the first one informal and the third one more formal, suitable for a manager. He explains another pair of eyes as could you have a look for me?. The British Council lesson on asking a favour also opens with Have you got a minute?, and to say no it uses I would if I could, but I can't.
The last two come from the BBC episode Saying no. The last sentence says yes first and then names the cost, so the other person decides the priority.
2. Checking understanding
| What I want to say | What works in this situation | Relation to the source |
|---|---|---|
| 我確認一下,我這樣理解對嗎? | Can I just check that I've understood that right? | Quoted |
| 我不太確定有沒有跟上,你可以再跟我講一次嗎? | I'm not sure I follow you. Can you just talk me through that again? | Quoted |
| 我們的理解是一致的嗎? | Are we on the same page? | Quoted |
The first two come from the BBC episode Misunderstandings. The same episode has can you walk me through how you usually do this?, which the host says is especially useful for someone new. My Could you walk me through how this part works? from the previous post differs only in the opening and the object. Of the twelve old cards, it is the only one that nearly matches a sentence in the materials.
The third comes from Clear communication. The Oxford dictionary lists on the same page as an idiom (page).
3. Disagreeing politely
| What I want to say | What works in this situation | Relation to the source |
|---|---|---|
| 嗯,這個我不太確定。我覺得應該先在測試環境試。 | Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I think we should test it on staging first. | I added the second half |
| 我懂你的意思,但我覺得這不符合需求。 | I see what you mean, but I don't think it fits the requirements. | Changed after but |
| 你覺得這個具體要怎麼運作? | How exactly do you see this working? | Quoted |
| 我們先試兩個星期,看看有沒有影響,好嗎? | Why don't we try it for a couple of weeks and see if there's any impact? | Quoted |
This group is where the two sources overlap most:
- Saying "not sure" instead of "I disagree": the BBC episode Conflict has Hmm, I'm not sure about that, I think.... The British Council lesson on agreeing and disagreeing has I'm not so sure and I'm not convinced by that idea.
- Acknowledging first, then turning: the British Council has I see what you mean, but it looks a bit empty, I take your point, but…, and I see where you're coming from. The BBC has that's a good point, … but in this instance, I think we should….
The last two come from the British Council lesson on challenging someone's ideas. That lesson also has Have you considered the fact that…?, which is a little sarcastic in the original dialogue, so the tone is yours to judge when you use it.
4. Admitting mistakes, warning about bad news, chasing progress and deadlines
| What I want to say | What works in this situation | Relation to the source |
|---|---|---|
| 我不小心部署錯分支了,不過我已經有修正的計畫。 | I've accidentally deployed the wrong branch, but I have a plan to fix the problem. | The mistake changed |
| 這是我的問題。 | That's on me. | Quoted |
| 我得先跟你說一聲。 | I need to give you a heads up. | Quoted |
| 你有空看過我的 PR 了嗎? | Have you had a chance to look at my PR? | report changed to PR |
| 這件事的期限有多硬? | How firm is our deadline on this? | Quoted |
The original sentence in the BBC episode Mistakes is I've accidentally sent the email out early, but I have a plan to fix the problem. The point is to admit the mistake and bring the fix with it. In the British Council lesson on dealing with a problem, the openers are I've got a bit of a problem and I've made a mistake.
That's on me and I need to give you a heads up come from the BBC episode Apologies. The Oxford dictionary labels heads-up as especially North American English (heads-up), but the BBC in the UK teaches it too, so you can hear it in both places.
The sentence for chasing progress comes from Chasing people, where the original context is writing an email. The host says this indirect question for a first reminder is a British habit, and probably an American one too. The deadline question, How firm is our deadline on this?, comes from the Saying no episode, and Deadlines and logistics also has do we have a hard deadline on this?.
5. Incident calls
| What I want to say | What works in this situation | Relation to the source |
|---|---|---|
| 了解,我二十分鐘後回報進度。 | Understood, I'll get back with an update in 20 minutes. | Quoted |
This one comes from PagerDuty's Incident Commander training. It is a dialogue the document uses as an example: the commander assigns a task with a time limit, and the person assigned replies this way. The same document asks participants to say they don't know when they are unsure, rather than guess. It also says that when the commander asks for input, the question is Are there any strong objections to this plan? and not Does everyone agree?.
Can I also say it this way?
| English | Who you say it to and when | Still the same meaning? |
|---|---|---|
| Have you got a second to help me out? | To a colleague, informal | Main version |
| Sorry to bother you, but would you mind helping me for a moment? | To a manager, more formal | Yes, different tone (the BBC's distinction) |
| I'm not sure about that. | Raising a doubt | Main version |
| I'm not convinced by that idea. | Same situation | Yes, a bit stronger (British Council) |
| I see what you mean, but… | Acknowledging first, then turning | Main version |
| I take your point, but… | Same situation | Yes (British Council) |
| That's on me. | Saying plainly that it was your responsibility | Main version |
| Sorry, I let this slip. | You forgot something minor | Different: "I forgot", not "I got it wrong" (the BBC calls it more informal) |
| How firm is our deadline on this? | Asking whether the deadline can move | Main version |
| Do we have a hard deadline on this? | Same situation | Yes (another BBC episode) |
Say it again with different content
Read the Chinese, say it yourself, then check the reference.
- 我這邊遇到一點問題。
- I'm having some trouble with this.
- 你的意思是我們應該先回滾嗎?
- Do you mean we should roll it back first?
- 我講得清楚嗎?
- Does that make sense?
- 我不小心刪錯檔案了,不過我已經有修正的計畫。
- I've accidentally deleted the wrong file, but I have a plan to fix the problem.
- 你有空看過那份文件了嗎?
- Have you had a chance to look at the doc?
- 了解,我十分鐘後回報進度。
- Understood, I'll get back with an update in 10 minutes.
Sentences 2 and 3 are also phrases the BBC teaches. The rest are source sentences with the content swapped.
A short dialogue
This is a practice example I wrote, not a dialogue from the materials.
A: Have you got a second to help me out? I'm having some trouble with this.
B: Sure. What's the problem?
A: I've accidentally deployed the wrong branch, but I have a plan to fix the problem. I think we should roll it back first.
B: Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Why don't we check the logs first?
A: I see what you mean, but users are already affected.
B: OK. Are we on the same page? You roll back, and I tell the team.
A: Yes. I'll get back with an update in 20 minutes.
Without looking at the English, how would you say it?
Rate yourself on whether you got the meaning across, not on matching the words exactly.
| Situation in Chinese | Reference |
|---|---|
| 卡住了請同事幫忙 | Have you got a second to help me out? I'm having some trouble with this. |
| 請人再看一次 | I think I need another pair of eyes on this. |
| 打擾主管 | Sorry to bother you, but would you mind helping me for a moment? |
| 同事找你幫忙但你在忙 | Can it wait until later? I'd love to help, but I have a few other things I need to sort out. |
| 已經忙不過來又被加工作 | I'm snowed under at the moment. Is there anyone else that can help? |
| 願意做但別的會延後 | I can get that done for you. It might mean that we have to push back another deadline though. |
| 確認自己沒聽錯 | Can I just check that I've understood that right? |
| 沒跟上對方講的 | I'm not sure I follow you. Can you just talk me through that again? |
| 確認雙方理解一致 | Are we on the same page? |
| 對做法有疑慮 | Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I think we should test it on staging first. |
| 聽懂但不同意 | I see what you mean, but I don't think it fits the requirements. |
| 請對方講具體 | How exactly do you see this working? |
| 提議先試一段時間 | Why don't we try it for a couple of weeks and see if there's any impact? |
| 承認部署錯了 | I've accidentally deployed the wrong branch, but I have a plan to fix the problem. |
| 明講是自己的責任 | That's on me. |
| 預告壞消息 | I need to give you a heads up. |
| 提醒對方看 PR | Have you had a chance to look at my PR? |
| 問期限能不能動 | How firm is our deadline on this? |
| 事故中回覆收到 | Understood, I'll get back with an update in 20 minutes. |
Still to verify
- How to report progress in a stand-up: none of the materials I read this time teach it. It needs another kind of source, such as public meeting notes from engineering teams.
- Whether Have you got…? and snowed under lean British: both speaking sources are British institutions and do not say. I did not find a dictionary label either.
- Whether the collocations still sound natural after I swapped technical terms (staging, PR, branch) into the source sentences: I did not check separately.
- American workplace speaking materials: I sampled none this time.
- Thirteen episodes of BBC Office English are still unread.
Overall
The biggest difference between this batch and the previous post is that I found what I had been practicing barely overlaps with what the materials teach. I assumed the hard part of work English was explaining a technical situation clearly. The materials put the hard part between people: how to ask for help, how to say no, how to disagree without souring things, how to admit a mistake. Both are needed, but I had never practiced the second kind at all.
Fifteen of the nineteen sentences are quoted from the sources. The ones worth practicing first are the three for checking understanding and the three for admitting mistakes, because leaving those unsaid costs the most. The limit is that both speaking sources come from British institutions, so this level of indirectness may not fit elsewhere. There was also no native-speaker testing and no frequency comparison.
References
- BBC Office English: Help: asking for help, offering help, helping later
- BBC Office English: Saying no: being snowed under, pushing back a deadline, how firm a deadline is
- BBC Office English: Misunderstandings: checking understanding, asking someone to explain again
- BBC Office English: Clear communication: on the same page
- BBC Office English: Conflict: I'm not sure about that
- BBC Office English: Mistakes: admitting a mistake together with a plan to fix it
- BBC Office English: Apologies: That's on me, heads up
- BBC Office English: Chasing people: chasing progress
- BBC Office English: Deadlines and logistics: hard deadline
- British Council LearnEnglish: Asking a favour: asking for help and saying no
- British Council LearnEnglish: Agreeing and disagreeing: disagreeing politely
- British Council LearnEnglish: Challenging someone's ideas: follow-up questions and suggesting a trial
- British Council LearnEnglish: Dealing with a problem: opening a conversation about a problem you caused
- PagerDuty Incident Response: Incident Commander training: the example dialogue for incident calls
- Oxford Learner's Dictionaries: heads-up: regional label
- Oxford Learner's Dictionaries: page: on the same page
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